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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: redtide on June 22, 2011, 06:49 pm
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I've been PMing with this guy. He seems honorable and cool.
I thinking about dealing with him. I'd like to know if anyone has dealt
with him yet.
thanks!
Red
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I placed an order on Saturday and he was very communicative and friendly. He told me it would ship this past Wednesday and that I should receive it by Friday. He marked the item as In Transit almost immediately- obviously before he sent it. Then he asked me how to get the bitcoins to his account, so I had to explain the escrow system to him and that he would not receive any bitcoins until I had received the package.
I got a message from him Wednesday saying he couldn't send it out that day and would let me know when it was going out. I have not heard from him since. At this point I'm not confident I'll receive anything from him and hopefully SR escrow will let me get my all of btc back.
Tough to get a reliable USA domestic coke hookup around here!
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I just checked his listings and it appears he has modified his item description recently. Check it out:
"some things happened to my main connect, so the stuff i will be sending out now will have lower purity levels.... between 50-70%.... because of this, whoever made an order i will either give you a full refund or partial refund. i have limitless supply of this new stuff, but it sadly just does not do the trick for me..as i do not like snorting heavily adulterated cocaine...but ya sorry for any trouble this may have cause you.... i can still buy this stuff and purify it if your interested in some 99%, throw me a pm."
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too bad. I thought he had some real possibilities.
I'm interested in the 99% but the low quality
source material may push the price of the refined too high.
I just ordered from mrlebowski.
I'll let you know how that goes.
Red
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Anyone recieved anything yet? I didnt see that new description in his profile. For me it doesnt need to be superb stuff anyway , just some smooth yayo for decent price.
I am really looking for more EU vendors.
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I received my package from Kezenaren today, shipped quickly and discreetly. I have not sampled it yet (other than a tiny bit to confirm it is, indeed, cocaine) but I gave him a 5 for honest communication and the packaging/shipping. He offered to refund me for the quality being below par but I'm going to let it go because I think he'll be an excellent domestic USA source once he gets higher quality product he is proud of.
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I'm fighting with this guy in resolution right now. Nothing showed up at all, and I never got a tracking number as stated in his description. Then the quality changed, and through the resolution process he's telling me that he gave my order to a family member to ship out. This was after shipment was delayed several times. He even offered "a full refund or partial refund" in his new product description, but only wants to give me 50% through resolution. I guess he thinks that I should be on the hook for a substandard product that never showed up after he gave it to a family member to ship out.
I'm not trying to be a dick. If he runs out of something and wants to send something else, that's fine, but the buyer should have the option. If he wants to change the shipping method, the seller should let me know beforehand. Apparently, after I made the order he thinks I should be perfectly cool with a different product being shipped by a different method by a different person and not even show up. I really don't know what to say.
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I havent recieved any tracking code either.
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i just purchased some H from this guy. sometimes shit happens but if a pattern develops then you know its most likely a scam. everyone is entitled to redemption and when my order comes this guy will get it...if not then the escrow system is in place for issues like that...check out the other thread New H vendor Kezenaren on SR...
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IT sounds to me like he fully didn't understand the escrow system. Then Janetreno explained it well, most likely. So he figured he has to send it out because he wont see a dime, anyways. Now that he has thought about it, he's probably figured away to scam..
Thats just an opinion. i hope that im wrong.. But my gut tells me differently...
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You might suggest--when pming him--that he come to forums. I've realized lately that some of the vendors have never been over here, and don't realize even they are being discussed. I find the less knowledgeable vendors do better and seem to get more reliable if they come over here and get involved a bit, and can also get good advice from buyers and other vendors.
Lately, when I lift escrow on trusted sellers, I've begun to add this to feedback: "Trusted seller, lifted escrow, please go to forums for further info"
Or something like that...mostly I'm trying to get the newbies on SR to come over here, so they can find out that some of these sellers have been chancey, or downright ripoffs...opiate buyers know what I'm talking about...
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he is legit! i ordered 2 days ago and it came today...looks good too! preparing for iv as i type this...
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he is legit! i ordered 2 days ago and it came today...looks good too! preparing for iv as i type this...
Now *this* is a good post! :)
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kudos to this vendor! i've been waiting for like 4 weeks for some H from Illy who disappeared suddenly but with this guy it came in 2 fuckin days people! love the tar...made a nice dark yet clear amber solution after filtering 2x of course! i got .5g only put a small pice in with .75ml of bacteriostatic water and it dissolved nicely:) my first experience with this vendor was excellent and i hope this will be a long term relationship with lots of consistency...
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I paid him half a K he has not get back to me 6 hours after last reply. I hope he is legit. Will get back to feedback to all once I got my goods.
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I'm fighting with this guy in resolution right now. Nothing showed up at all, and I never got a tracking number as stated in his description. Then the quality changed, and through the resolution process he's telling me that he gave my order to a family member to ship out. This was after shipment was delayed several times. He even offered "a full refund or partial refund" in his new product description, but only wants to give me 50% through resolution. I guess he thinks that I should be on the hook for a substandard product that never showed up after he gave it to a family member to ship out.
I'm not trying to be a dick. If he runs out of something and wants to send something else, that's fine, but the buyer should have the option. If he wants to change the shipping method, the seller should let me know beforehand. Apparently, after I made the order he thinks I should be perfectly cool with a different product being shipped by a different method by a different person and not even show up. I really don't know what to say.
Passing to a family member is a bad idea, unless he is in co-business. I specifically requested for a tracking number, he said yes, and I have been waiting for past 6 hours for his reply since he went to the post.
Kezenaren, I am not referring to you (if you read this), but when I am faced with scams, what pain me the most is not my money going down the drain, but wasting of my time! You can gain back money, but you can't gain back the distress and wasting of time waiting! You can never pay back time!
I will be updating this thread for the next several hours and update you guys what goes on.
Hoping all the seniors and moderators would support too, and know what's going on.
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Please keep us updated as much as possible. Considering myself....
PMs with him have been nice, but the whole LE casing his house kinda scared me off.
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He has changed his description of LE surrounding him. I will be watching closely, until he reply me. It is strange he would not reply me now even though the post would have closed at night time.
Is anyone else here in contact with him?
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Glad I stayed clear of this guy. I was this close to buying from him until I saw a video he posted on the regular (non tor) internet for an altered ps3 he was selling. Sounded like some adolescent thug not a responsible businessman. Glad my douche radar was working.
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Glad I stayed clear of this guy. I was this close to buying from him until I saw a video he posted on the regular (non tor) internet for an altered ps3 he was selling. Sounded like some adolescent thug not a responsible businessman. Glad my douche radar was working.
Can't really tell though, he did have many good feedbacks on profile.
Did anyone manage to get a reply from him for the past 5 hours?
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Update: 8 hours and no reply, not yet midnight in US though.
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11 hours and no reply from him, Moderators or anyone, can help?
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Hi everyone,
Kezenaren requested payment of half a K which I paid and he did not reply to me. I asked around and several members did received his replies.
To moderators what should I do? I can't believe scam still exists here even though seller has good rating!
Help!
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Hi everyone,
Kezenaren requested payment of 500usd which I paid and he did not reply to me. I asked around and several members did received his replies.
To moderators what should I do? I can't believe scam still exists here even though seller has good rating!
HELP!
Did you release payment from escrow?
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There's not a lot any of us can do, except warn others. I know this person has done a few orders here and there, but have you ever done business with him? If not, thats a pretty big order to trust someone with. I wouldn't give up hope yet. I doubt anyone would risk their reputation for a few hundred bucks..
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Why on earth would you invest $500 into a vendor on the site less than 3 weeks?
Shit i cant make 500 in 3 weeks, it's sad but true.
The best out come of this is you get 250$ back thru escrow but even that depends on the btc rate.
No one can do anything else for you.
Hard lesson to learn but apparently you had to learn it the hard way.
Sorry dude.
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i got H from him 2 weeks ago..placed another order but still in transit...
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just talked to keasey n its going out today or tomorrow!
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I ordered from him early last week, I think it was Monday. He responded back saying he couldn't ship until Thur. or Fri. because Wed. was his birthday. I thought that was kinda strange. Then on Thur. according to my account page, my package was in transit. I'm thinking hell yea, I'm finally going to get my stuff. Finally Sat. comes around and there's no fucking package. I'm thinking WTF now? I go back online to SR and there's a message from him. He stated that he was being questioned at the post office; that they were asking him questions about what he was sending. He asked me to resend my address. I'm thinking to myself, what the hell is going on here with this guy. He's giving me the fucking runaround. As a buyer, I don't want to hear about my seller having problems with nosy USPS employees. He also wrote something on his profile page about LE cruising his street where he lives. A good seller doesn't want to broadcast this to his buyers, either. He apologized to me for not sending and stated that that the LE issue was just a misunderstanding and said he would get it out on Monday and I would receive by Wednesday. So from the time I originally ordered, I wasn't gonna get my package for nine or maybe ten days! He also said he would send a dilaudid and some yayo for the inconvenience. The extras sounded real good and I almost went through with the deal but I figured that all of this bullshit just wasn't worth it. I figured he was probably out and waiting on another batch, so I asked the dude to cancel my order. In spite of all this, I feel like the guy has good intentions, but my personal opinion is that he's a little young and maybe needs to get his shit together if he's gonna sell heroin on SR. Hopefully my fentanyl will get here tomorrow from a more experieced vendor.
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I ordered from him early last week, I think it was Monday. He responded back saying he couldn't ship until Thur. or Fri. because Wed. was his birthday. I thought that was kinda strange. Then on Thur. according to my account page, my package was in transit. I'm thinking hell yea, I'm finally going to get my stuff. Finally Sat. comes around and there's no fucking package. I'm thinking WTF now? I go back online to SR and there's a message from him. He stated that he was being questioned at the post office; that they were asking him questions about what he was sending. He asked me to resend my address. I'm thinking to myself, what the hell is going on here with this guy. He's giving me the fucking runaround. As a buyer, I don't want to hear about my seller having problems with nosy USPS employees. He also wrote something on his profile page about LE cruising his street where he lives. A good seller doesn't want to broadcast this to his buyers, either. He apologized to me for not sending and stated that that the LE issue was just a misunderstanding and said he would get it out on Monday and I would receive by Wednesday. So from the time I originally ordered, I wasn't gonna get my package for nine or maybe ten days! He also said he would send a dilaudid and some yayo for the inconvenience. The extras sounded real good and I almost went through with the deal but I figured that all of this bullshit just wasn't worth it. I figured he was probably out and waiting on another batch, so I asked the dude to cancel my order. In spite of all this, I feel like the guy has good intentions, but my personal opinion is that he's a little young and maybe needs to get his shit together if he's gonna sell heroin on SR. Hopefully my fentanyl will get here tomorrow from a more experieced vendor.
He started out with yay and fucked that up pretty well. Then he switched to H.
This is NOT a guy I would want to have possession of my personal info.
He's flakey and erratic.
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Okay, I have to chime in here. I'm relatively new here, and have only been an observer so far, but mostly I've been disappointed that what I'm looking for isn't available or only outside of the U.S. as I know enough to know you can't rely on anything making through the scrutiny of the USPS for incoming international packages. So as far as I can see, being in the U.S. and ordering from outside of the U.S. is insane.
What I really wanted to see was a good heroin dealer. So far, it doesn't look like it is going to happen. Anyone who hasn't realized that these people can fake their own reviews obviously hasn't read enough of the forums (barrysneaky?). That said, of the two forums dealing with Kezenaren, it seems to me that besides mentalmatt, who got one package and then became worried about whether the other one would arrive, the only person who ecstatically proclaimed what a great package had arrived was rx4200. Has it occurred to anyone that rx4200 could be a friend of Keasy's or Keasy himself? Electriccrazyman who was worried about his shipment on the other forum (Kezenaren and my first successful H buy) never told the end of his story, so for all we know, he was robbed too. As for leech, man you must be crazy trusting some kid drug dealer who you never have or will meet with $500. That could easily be enough for him to say fuck it and pack his bags on Silk Road. The fact that he's talking about law enforcement and problems at the post office is alarming on two levels. 1) It could be true. 2) If it isn't true, then it is him preparing a story to run off with a decent sum (like $500) and you could assume he got cased up. That might even allow him to return in a month or two and say things are better again and expect to be forgiven. But if cops are watching him, then most likely it's because the business he does in person with people in his area, not here on SR (most likely). A young kid hustling on the grind like that having to super-stealth wrap every sale and go to the post office in person... sounds like a lot of work to expect from someone who's already risking years in prison so they don't have to work a normal job. So $500 lick when he's got most of his customers in the real world anyway doesn't sound that hard to believe. And now look, there's rx4200 again, egging everyone on, telling them things will be alright. But leech, I have no doubt that for you and your $500, things will not be alright.
It's too bad too, because it would seem like a no-brainer to me that if you were honest selling H on here, being the only one doing it, you'd make a killing. And it'll take a lot more before I trust coloradogold or italianpilot, both of whom seem to want to work outside of the escrow system. Barrysneaky had Philly dope, italianpilot has NYC, and now colorado? Seems more than a coincidence. But if I was a dealer on here I wouldn't let one single transaction go bad. Never. Not even once. That's the only way you'll gain the confidence of strangers who are expected to trust you with their money and personal info. NEVER! ONE FUCK UP FUCKS IT ALL UP!
Hey, Vanilla, I'd love to know where I can find that video... I never trust jitts who think they're gangsters. Eventually, they always prove to be more about themselves than about their business.
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All that said, I'm not trying to be a dick. Rx4200 could be a happy customer, and Kezenaren could be an honest vender, which would be nice because I'd really love to try some of that black tar. But hey kid! If there really is a video of you selling a PS3, and you told us your birthday, including the year by saying you were turning 21, and you've said in the past you were in California... well I hope Keasy isn't your street name, because if it is and the cops have ever gotten so much as a whiff of you, well that would explain why the cops are watching your house. They are a lot more resourceful than you think. And with the rate technology is growing, it's impossible to know at any given time how effective their information network is. It's kind of like how it's so much riskier to do parking lot deals nowadays because everyone has a cellphone. Not even ten years ago you didn't have to worry about that quite as much. Someone saw you and got suspicious, they had to go inside, yada yada. So I'm just saying they could easily have or be working on a vast coast to coast inter-agency multi-tiered information database (DEA, FED, State's, County, City). I'm just saying, it's feasible now, just a question of if. But c'mon, get it together and make us happy; we'll make you rich. I really really want to see a good H dealer, and good move on offering the quarter gram, because I'd have probably never given you the chance if it meant risking $150. $75 I might do, but I'll need to see some happy forum remarks first and some of these current issues resolved.
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Electriccrazyman who was worried about his shipment on the other forum (Kezenaren and my first successful H buy) never told the end of his story, so for all we know, he was robbed too.
I didn't get ripped off - I submitted a review that was generally favorable. To paraphrase it - the shipment was short, he took my word and refunded without any need for resolution. packaging was creative but not professional. he should improve professionalism. i made a number of suggestions for improving his practices and sent to him encrypted. last i heard he couldn't decrypt.
i think the underlying issue here is that he's young and less professional and cautious than we would hope for. i think his heart is in the right place but there are risks associated with his lack of experience.
ecm
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I believe he cancelled an order of SWIM.
Not sure why.
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I received Kezen reply 1 hour ago, he says he will ship the product in another 6 days time.
2 days ago, he actually told me he was going to the post office to send the package. That was when he started to ignore all my PM thereafter, this shows that he did not prepare nor send the package as in his replies.
He even said he had the package double sealed with extra goodies added, and he was going to head to the post in an hour. These were all false, now he says product is out of stock and will send in 6 days time. And there won't be any tracking number unlike what he stated before.
I am not sure if any SR members actually help me out by informing him.
Kezenaren (if you are reading this), I am not concluding whether you are good or bad seller yet. Let the SR members be the judge.
I will update you guys after playing this waiting game, I don't believe in waiting 'forever' though.
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hello everyone!
love the conspiracy theory...me working with Keasy to post fake feedback and rip off other SR members...but thats not the case! ive been buying from every H dealer since Ive been here and the first transaction with Illy didnt come through. it didnt matter though because i didnt release escrow and got my BTC back like a month later...the stuff i got from Keasy was good , on point, and came in like 2 days...a bit over priced but thats what we get for buying drugs online and having them delivered by mail. ill be the first to tarnish a vendors rep if i get ripped off but as long as you don't give the money up first, like when you're buying on the streets, then you'll be ok. i dont even live anywhere close to him and if any vendor that ive bought from is here and you remember what state im in tell these people im not lying but dont give up my state!
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Video: http://tinypic.com/r/29p3kpf/7 It is still in his listing for the hacked ps3. (I clean history on my tor machine every morning) Shocked he never sold it at $1200 lol. But yea if I wanted to buy drugs from teenage gang bangers I could so that in my neighborhood. I think I'll pass.
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haha this is a pretty vicious little thread here. 8)
i am not a gang banger, just someone trying to make a little money on the downlow. nor am i teenager >.>
trying my best to improve packaging, so anyone with recommendations please message me directly on silkroad, would love some ideas.
i have 6 g's left on deck, and can now fulfill larger custom orders. this is all of course by escrow.... so i cant really rip you off, despite all your worries... a good 85-90% of my order have made it to there destinations in 2 days. all shipments are made by priority flat rate envelope.
feel free to message me with any questions, inquiries or concerns i will be happy to cater to your desires.
1 more thing, having a small sale for the next 48 hours.. going hunting until sunday, so all orders will be sent out monday.
i <3 you all even tho so many of you hate. ^^
dont be so quick to judge, order from me..and youll know that im legit.. this tar that i have is pretty fuckin bomb right now too.. would be a pity to miss out on.
-peace & regards
~keasy
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My package came yesterday ...weighed exactly. 5 and its the mutha fuckin bomb! thanks again Keasy....2nd successful order and many more to come!
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haha this is a pretty vicious little thread here. 8)
i am not a gang banger, just someone trying to make a little money on the downlow. nor am i teenager >.>
trying my best to improve packaging, so anyone with recommendations please message me directly on silkroad, would love some ideas.
i have 6 g's left on deck, and can now fulfill larger custom orders. this is all of course by escrow.... so i cant really rip you off, despite all your worries... a good 85-90% of my order have made it to there destinations in 2 days. all shipments are made by priority flat rate envelope.
feel free to message me with any questions, inquiries or concerns i will be happy to cater to your desires.
1 more thing, having a small sale for the next 48 hours.. going hunting until sunday, so all orders will be sent out monday.
i <3 you all even tho so many of you hate. ^^
dont be so quick to judge, order from me..and youll know that im legit.. this tar that i have is pretty fuckin bomb right now too.. would be a pity to miss out on.
-peace & regards
~keasy
remember, we remember your ridiculous initial attempt and vending blow. you've lost credibility.
what you call vicious is actually healthy skepticism.
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its understandable to be skeptical, and i admit me vending coke was a pretty pathetic attempt of gaining some btc.
i actually do coke, so it wasn't really the best thing for me to try vending, and i apologize to anyone who dealed with my laggyness & unprofessional coke vending.. specially you redtide.
in my defense, i would like to say that i am "NOT" a junkie, and wont have any problem with ingesting the product which i am selling.
also, the junk i have is pretty fuckin premium quality and larger amounts are also obtainable..i have pictures of the 6 g's i got left.
i made 15 successful transactions with tar in the past 2 weeks... and i have plenty more tar to fill orders...
i understand that the SR community is skeptical, but that is what escrow is for :/ i can even ship out some orders today if people place some orders within the next 3-4 hours.
hope to gain back atleast a little credibility and work myself up to eventually being reputable.
i can discount even further for those of you who had a bad experience with my coke vending..just send me a message on silk, ide be happy to comply with your requests ^^
-peace & regards SR
~keasy 8)
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The way I see it, if you don't take care of leech's issue.
You'll never get your cred back.
I wish you well. Good luck and do it right.
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haha this is a pretty vicious little thread here. 8)
i am not a gang banger, just someone trying to make a little money on the downlow. nor am i teenager >.>
trying my best to improve packaging, so anyone with recommendations please message me directly on silkroad, would love some ideas.
i have 6 g's left on deck, and can now fulfill larger custom orders. this is all of course by escrow.... so i cant really rip you off, despite all your worries... a good 85-90% of my order have made it to there destinations in 2 days. all shipments are made by priority flat rate envelope.
feel free to message me with any questions, inquiries or concerns i will be happy to cater to your desires.
1 more thing, having a small sale for the next 48 hours.. going hunting until sunday, so all orders will be sent out monday.
i <3 you all even tho so many of you hate. ^^
dont be so quick to judge, order from me..and youll know that im legit.. this tar that i have is pretty fuckin bomb right now too.. would be a pity to miss out on.
-peace & regards
~keasy
Anyone would love to give you a positive comment, how can he if you couldn't ship the product after someone paid you half a K?
Furthermore, I related a Tor security issue with the moderator how it is possible for sellers to give themselves virtually positive feedbacks, even more so in forums.
For a merchant, conning money as and when he likes it, to pay off his occasional debts, do you think the merchant is trustworthy? He might be selling bomb and gold, but occasionally he scam to cover his debts-in-lieu, what kind of merchant is he? Is he reliable? Is he trustworthy? Is he fit to trade? Can he be recommended?
I have already came across different form of scams. Some are fulltime geeks who create different accounts, provide fake information, some are smooth talkers who talk about contracts with big companies, even how dangerously pure their products are (LOL), with proof of certificates, but, of course, they will never ship the product. All of them have in common; they will always ignore your message after payment, after getting off with some excuses. Honestly speaking, these people will be retributed fairly, so it is not a wise thing to do.
Once again kezenaren, I have never concluded you are a scam yet. I merely pointed out honestly what is going on.
At least this is a good and constructive point to discuss in this forum.
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I have to reiterate that my dealings with keasy have been good. Not perfect but ultimately honorable. His communications have been pretty good - sometimes sporadic but consistent most of the time, his timeliness likewise, his professionalism leaves a bit to be desired but he strikes me as eager to learn and improve. he has never asked about going outside of escrow.
I don't know anything about leech's bad experience and wonder what happened there.
Leech - a half K is a big deal. Did you go around escrow? I wouldn't be as nice as you are if I were out that much. Have you received anything? was the order for coke or tar? is keasy offering to make anything up?
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same here, all of my experiences with Keasy have been good which is my I stick for him and his product. Im shooting some of his tar now! But if I were out $500 with no communication and no product, I would be pissed off too! Hopefully Keasy makes it up because he is the only real H vendor here so far and having bad feedback here in the forums could affect his sales which mite discourage him form doing business on SR. Im sure there are a lot more satisfied customers out there but not everyone comes to the forums.
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Been debating on ordering from kez. While not getting product is annoying, its not really my biggest concern. Giving out an address is a big leap of faith. Getting a controlled delivery is a much bigger worry for me. And I really don't feel like moving. The impression I've got is that he is trying to do right and be a legit seller. The biggest red flag to me is that he seems extremely young and inexperienced. If I'm going to deal with someone, I expect a certain level of professionalism. Posting about problems with LE and what not seems so bizarre and reckless. Also posting personal details is just asking to get pinched. Lots of room for improvement. But hey, learn from your mistakes and get better. No one else is selling H on here, huge potential for ya. Might buy in the future, taking a wait and see approach right now.
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I have decided to take a gamble and go for it and order half a g. I'll let you know how it goes down people. Doesn't seem like I'll be able to get any Dilaudid and furthermore, I am a bit worried about ordering anything from someone in a different country or else I would go thru Benzoman.
In any event, it's late Monday so hopefully things will be all good sooner than three days...I am not going to explain why, but, yeah...
I'll let you all know.
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I went ahead and put an order in today. Should ship out by tomorrow.
Like I said before, I am going to let everyone know what (or doesn't) happen in a few days.
Either I'll be :D or I'll be :'(
Whatever happens, I will be sure to let you people know of said transaction.
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Hello everyone,
i have done my first order from Kezenaren
Its not possible to buy any 0.1g anymore ( to test if hes trustworthy), but after a while i decided to order 0.5g
Now i get the following message from him:
sorry sir, i dont send tar international unless "Funds", Are finalized early.
or payment is done by Moneypak(Paypal) , or direct paypal payment ( Gift )
again, "sorry" for any inconvenience this may have caused. if you dont "finalize" within 48 hours then i will "Cancel" your order.
let me know what u wanna do :)
What do you think?
Someone ordered from him and finalized before the tar arrived and all went ok?
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The reason Kezenaren's thread is stickied in this forum is because Kezenaren is a sketchy vendor.
The risk factor is up to you but i once again suggest not ordering outside of escrow system on Silk Road.
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I don't have a lot to offer compared to what's already been posted, but I will add that I attempted to place an order a couple of weeks ago. Kez replied that he was fresh out of product, and that he would cancel the order and let me know when there was more. Got a full refund and promptly, so that was good. Communication was fairly quick as well, but I'm still concerned with all of the other reports around here.
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I ordered a gram about a week and a half ago. He did ask if I would finalize early but I naturally refused. The product did arrive within a couple business days, and was pretty decent quality. He was also pretty quick to respond. I think he may be a bit unorthodox and assumes buyers should trust him more than they do, but all went well. I just now ordered another g based on my previous positive experience.
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he never asked me to release escrow early and I only do once I get the shit and know its real(after i cook it up and taste it), but he always replies quickly and the stuff gets here in 3 days or less...ive ordered more than 5 times and all have been good....and that tar is fucking awesome:)
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As seeing the source of much of Kezenaran's vending problems have been explained I will now un sticky this topic from the top of the forum.
08/08/2011 ..this weekend i got in a narly car accident...
severed my entire kneecap... literally just got outta the hospital.. so lucky to be alive.
but now im back home and ready for some new orders.
stoked to see how many people are interested ^^ ill get everyones order out asap will probably be tuesday but still possibly today if my mules come and see me..all depends
ill be updating this profile on a regular basis now.
-peace
:D
nomad bloodbath
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I have to reiterate that my dealings with keasy have been good. Not perfect but ultimately honorable. His communications have been pretty good - sometimes sporadic but consistent most of the time, his timeliness likewise, his professionalism leaves a bit to be desired but he strikes me as eager to learn and improve. he has never asked about going outside of escrow.
I don't know anything about leech's bad experience and wonder what happened there.
Leech - a half K is a big deal. Did you go around escrow? I wouldn't be as nice as you are if I were out that much. Have you received anything? was the order for coke or tar? is keasy offering to make anything up?
My answer won't solve my loss at all. If you really wanna know, till now I received NOTHING, other than some excuses from his past messages; he does not reply me anymore. Has he forsaken me, or his accident didn't make him feel the least conscience I guess? I think money lost from investment is not so big of an issue, the problem here is his integrity is at stake. It is not a good move to do random scamming on stranger who would trust you.
There's a dateline he promised me so till then I will give him a justifiable review.
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Kezenaren first tells me
"if you dont "finalize" within 48 hours then i will "Cancel" your order."
(little bit late...sending messages AFTER people have already buyed.. but not a big problem for me....IF he cancel fast!!!!!)
But at that time, order was already at status "in transit"
Question: Can he really cancel an order so i get back Bitcoins soon, after he had already changed the status?
Have send him a message that i want to cancel order yesterday, he has read it, but not answered until now.
2nd message was send now.
Waiting for answer.
If he lets me wait 10 days until i can click on RESOLVE, i will get very angry.....
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Kezenaren has cancelled my order now,
Bitcoins are back on my Account.
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Honestly, I wouldn't be ready for finalizing early w/ this vendor just yet. I'm in the state though, so that issue shouldn't be there.
Has anybody else received from this vendor? Also, does anybody else feel like his prices are a tad outrageous? I completely understand that there needs to be a bit of a tax since he's shipping and selling online, but around here dope usually goes for something like $170-200 per gram. I also heard that black tar is supposed to be quite a bit cheaper. But his prices are like around $300/gram. Who can afford to purchase that regularly or semi-regularly?
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Oh c'mon. Give me a break. This guy has to be joking. This poor bastard leech is still out $500, this other dude makes a good point about the prices being too high, and now Kezenaren's asking for a $500 loan to get back on his feet to get his product back online available again. Is this guy dumb, getting high, or just reaching out for one last lick. Think this through for a minute: He's taken $500, I repeat, that's $500, that's a lot of money to just "get" without having to return anything for it, and his prices are so high he shouldn't have any problem WHATSOEVER making a profit; but now he's says he needs help getting back on his feet.
Well guess what. I don't give a fuck what people say. I don't even think I'm going to pay any more attention other than just for amusement. This "jitt", which is what he obviously is- and that's not hating, that's a fact, I heard him talking in that video- will never get any of my money, and that's just based on principle. Listen "Keasy", I'm out of the game now because I'm about seven years older than you and woke up and realized the potential jail time just isn't worth the money, but when I was in it, I made great money, paid my bills, smoked all the bud I so desired, and dabbled in other drugs for fun more than just merely occasionally, that is to say quite frequently. I was honest and reliable, and had a great reputation despite not needing it so badly as you do choosing to do your business on Silk Road. I was respected and revered (not feared, but loved, which believe it or not, never turned out badly even in that business), even kind and compassionate enough to front to sick people and they almost always paid me back because they knew I was a rare find. That said; you're a joke, the kind of deadbeat dealer that gives the whole business a bad reputation which sadly, is ever too commonplace. Someone smart and creative enough to try to use Silk Road to do business ought to be smart enough to do good business, but you, "homey", are apparently not. So whoever wants to label me a hater, so be it. I just feel bad for the others that you slapped as they probably were hoping for an honest and lasting seller/buyer relationship. Seeing what happened to Leech is really quite upsetting, regardless of his lack of prudence. But you won't ever slap my head because I'm not as stupid as you apparently are. You're a joke kid. Go to school and do something real with your life, because this isn't for you. "Peace"
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Too Bad that no one is selling tar from EU to EU....
He would make much money i think.....
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^ Tar is pretty much a regional thing, more or less confined to the western and southern United States since it's produced by Mexicans using a crude method of extracting Morphine. From what I hear, you aren't missing much because it's supposed to be pretty gnarly on the veins.
I'd be more than willing to try this guy out if he has another sale. I couldn't get my BTC into my account fast enough last time.
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I apologize in advance for this post for being sorta lengthy. I reeeealllly hope you don't dismiss it and go tl;dr. Like I said I'd keep everyone posted on my transaction with Kezenaren. I want to explain a few things about why I didn't pay in BTC, first. Mind you, this was MY suggestion because, #1: I don't have a regular bank account & I can only receive Direct Deposits. #2: The only way I could get BTC was to make a wire transfer with WU and I didn't feel like paying all the extra fees for WU, the BTC transaction, as well as giving an ID to the WU place because the price for his half g went up with the increase in BTC in the past few days (it jumped from 8 bucks a BTC to 10.5 recently). So, with that said, I asked if I could do a MoneyPak transaction instead. He said yes. This was ideal for me because I could go to this bodega and not worry about the heightened security at the closest WU's, which happens to be a couple high end banks.
Now I know about his problem with leech, who lost $500 -- but this was from his cola selling disaster and he admitted to poor business standards and the fact that it is his drug of choice.... I took note and decided to give his tar listing a try. I talked to him for about a week before taking the plunge. Half of this was due to me trying to get BTC and feeling him out as a seller. This is my first transaction btw. Anyhow, when I placed an order it was early Tuesday morning and I asked if we could do 80 bucks worth since the BTC went up over night and that was what I put on the MoneyPak card and I wasn't going to go and spend any more cash. He said he'd do it but I'd be getting .35g and I said fine. He then sent me some other emails talking about how great the shit was and that I shouldn't do it all at once, fearing I would and then nod out the last time, and some other bullshit filler emails. Mind you he logged on quite a few times that day more than usual. I was busy getting shit done that day and made sure to return before the post office cut off time. He sent me a msg 30 minutes before I got home saying he was "waiting on me and he wanted to get this out "today" and where was I?!" He sounded pretty upset. I dunno wtf those quotation marks around today was about, but that's neither here nor there. I sent him the info and he didn't get on for two more hours and then said he was sorry he couldn't get down to the post office and how he was sorry about that especially since all he had to do was wait 30 more minutes and he could have, so he said he'd add .1 onto my order. This was Wednesday the 10th.
He assured me that he had 5 other orders going out with mine the next day. I was gone for the next few days and was expecting that when I got home I'd have my shit. I emailed him, he didn't read one of them but read the other, which really was a cut and paste of the last email, just with some extra exclamation points and some quotes from his SR profile. Now, instead of telling me my shipment went out Friday the 12th -- which was promised that it was going out tomorrow!!! For SURE on the 11th -- he posted it on his profile after reading my pissed off emails.
This is what he wrote in his profile: 08/11/2011 .. Its midnight here, just finished packing up the last of my orders..i will be sending out 6 orders tomorrow( Today since its midnight xD )
Now why in the fuck are you BARELY finishing packing up your shit NOW when you said that you were sending out said orders, along-side mine on the 11th?!?!!? Now I am a big girl, granted I am bitching a lot here -- I am sure it will come off that way -- I wanted to explain my side of this transaction, as I said I would do in past posts. I haven't checked the mail today which is Saturday the 13th and I highly doubt that there will be anything in there that's worth going down to the fucking mail box for anyway so I guess I'll just have to wait until Monday, it should NOT take until Tuesday to get here. If it does, this big girl either has been fucked over because I went outside SR for this transaction due to my shit obstacles OR (I am actually optimistic, btw) I will get my package and it's really H and it makes me a happy, nodding, big girl.
I will keep you guys posted. Also, I think he is just on par with F2F sellers I would have avoided IRL. Thing is I don't have any connects anymore. This is why I wanted to experiment on this site and see what it brought to the table and see if Kezenaren really was a shitty, sketch vendor or he was just having some shitty luck. BTW I don't believe in shitty luck, but I do believe in KARMA!!! ;D
OT - I am fucking glad I finally got my script for 180 dillies 8) ;D I am going to go tie one off right now after all this typing of nonsense.
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^ The guy is fairly new to online drug dealing, not to mention he was in a car accident AND uses heroin. It doesn't come as a big surprise that he might be delayed in sending out packages. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt for now and cut him some slack. I find that while a good number of packages arrive on time, a good number are late as well. As an addict, it probably isn't safe to rely on an online dealer to keep WDs at bay.
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^ The guy is fairly new to online drug dealing, not to mention he was in a car accident AND uses heroin. It doesn't come as a big surprise that he might be delayed in sending out packages. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt for now and cut him some slack. I find that while a good number of packages arrive on time, a good number are late as well. As an addict, it probably isn't safe to rely on an online dealer to keep WDs at bay.
Just to let you know, I don't rely on online dealers to keep my WD's at bay -- that's just silly. If I know I'm running low on Dilaudid or Fentanyl patches I will just go to the hospital right now since I don't have a pain doctor due to insurance problems. Once the insurance thing gets straightened out I will be able to get my meds like I usually do. I am a chronic pain sufferer and I don't consider myself to be an addict. I won't lie at all, I like to IV Dilaudid sometimes for some extra pain relief and I just wanted to try his H, as well as try to prove this once stickied thread wrong in the process.
Just sayin'.
With that said I am cutting him some slack, seriously I am as I have been dealing with some very unfortunate events myself. I just said I would keep everyone informed on my buy with this guy because I was curious.
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I didn't mean to infer that you were an addict. Perhaps dependent is a better word? Anyway, I am in the same boat as you - thought my order was going out on the 10th as he said it would only to find out yesterday that it had just gone out.
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Fred, I see what you mean about the "addict" comment. Yes, I probably would be more of a dependent person but, I am sure someone would think either of us were addicts... to each their own on interpretation. I am sorry to hear that you are in the same predicament I am with your package. Let's just hope we get our package sooner than later!
Yesterday I was just a bit angry ( >:( ) about having forked out money I was waiting to spend on envious to be honest with you guys. I just got a message from envious saying that his stock is going to be posted very soon and I am sorta kicking myself in the ass right now because I would rather have more Dilaudid and some Opana rather than H because I know EXACTLY what I am getting with pharmies, as well as knowing envious is really a professional. OH well, I jumped at an opportunity that was the only one that was good at the time. Hopefully I can round up some extra funds and get some of envious' stuff. I'd be happy to give that guy a leg up on SR right now.
Fred, I got my fingers crossed right now for us and the other 4 people who Kezenaren has said to be sending stuff to. Hopefully monday will be the day. Also, I am a bit weary as to why he wants to sell these MoneyPak's for BTC, I am sure one of those are mine and wouldn't that help him get reup'd sooner than beggin on SR??? I guess we all know what is up with this guy now. I just wanted to be a part of SR and give my fair report on any of the transactions that I do because hell, that's what this forum is for, right?
Later guys! I'll be back to give more info on this transaction. ;D
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I'm in the same boat as audio I moneypaked the man he told me I'd get it saturday or today. alas, i have opened my mailbox to find nothing yet again. I am on the east coast so maybe it can take awhile. Just want my sticky goodness! I'll update this transaction after a few more days to see if this dudes legit.
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Look this flakiness existed long before his purported accident.
He makes up excuses, dodges questions, doesn't answer emails and
doesn't come through with the goods.
Are you guys really that desparate?
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His product arrived again when he said it would. It weighed right and had a bonus with it. If the world was the way I wish it was I would walk down to the 7-11 and buy my H. But it's not and Keasy is the most reliable H vendor on SR.
Do I think he could do things in a safer manner? Yes. But from what I can see he's learning and improving as he goes along. Keasy's a good guy and on balance I have had good experiences purchasing from him.
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Look this flakiness existed long before his purported accident.
He makes up excuses, dodges questions, doesn't answer emails and
doesn't come through with the goods.
Are you guys really that desparate?
I'm not desperate, just an idiot and I suppose you could say that is one in the same. I really didn't lose a great deal of money, I can get money back. That isn't the issue and I have learned from my mistakes. I am new to this so, burn me once shame on me. There is no second time. It's all shame on me dude. I went to the mail and the only thing I got was a fucking certified letter.....
Makes me pretty freaked out.
There is always tomorrow. Otherwise, I know I've been had. Wish SR would do something about this guy because he's pretty much begging on SR now and I do NOT believe that those two people who said they got anything from him actually did. ::)
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I exchanged moneypak for BTC w/ him, and everything went just fine.
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I exchanged moneypak for BTC w/ him, and everything went just fine.
Did you think it was strange that he wanted to exchange ACTUAL money for BTC when he needs a lot of money and has a bunch of info in his profile stating he needs donations and a listing for the same thing? I would think he'd want the money... but a lot of people are out of money now because of his lax and somewhat bogus practices. I have yet to hear from one person who left any feedback that received anything here on the forums -- one which was electriccrazyman.
I want to be proved wrong and I am waiting!
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Did you think it was strange that he wanted to exchange ACTUAL money for BTC when he needs a lot of money and has a bunch of info in his profile stating he needs donations and a listing for the same thing? I would think he'd want the money... but a lot of people are out of money now because of his lax and somewhat bogus practices. I have yet to hear from one person who left any feedback that received anything here on the forums -- one which was electriccrazyman.
on the btc to dollars - keasy is converting his btc to dollars. it makes sense to me.
if you check my posts you'll find my comments on keasy. i try not to comment more often than i have experiences to talk about, so i don't get on here every day and cheerlead. just a few messages before your post is my post on keasy. i'm not going to tell you everything is perfect but you all can see that - he's scrambling for cash, he's not a well-oiled machine, blah blah blah. but that comes with the territory and from what i see he comes through.
i'm interested to see if, now that he's apparently getting funded, he is able to offer better prices and achieves some consistency with his supply. he seems to have been bootstrapping himself so far.
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I exchanged moneypak for BTC w/ him, and everything went just fine.
Did you think it was strange that he wanted to exchange ACTUAL money for BTC when he needs a lot of money and has a bunch of info in his profile stating he needs donations and a listing for the same thing? I would think he'd want the money... but a lot of people are out of money now because of his lax and somewhat bogus practices. I have yet to hear from one person who left any feedback that received anything here on the forums -- one which was electriccrazyman.
I want to be proved wrong and I am waiting!
traded my cash for his BTC.
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emc: Thank you for responding. I wonder why yours got to you and mine hasn't yet. I still have one more day. I am waiting. I also saw the listing -- to my understanding -- MoneyPak to btc. I was confused.
Also, when did you order? If you don't mind me asking.
traded my cash for his BTC.
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Boba: again, I see what has transpired.
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Hi guys,
I've been watching SR for a while...and watching the H market. The one thing I noticed is he is KILLING you on tar. I spend time on both coasts, when I'm on the east coast I get good powder for 150/bundle, and when I'm in SF tar goes for 40/g. that price is pretty standard all over the west coast. Sometimes it gets to 80/g, but not much higher. Thats in Denver, which has the best tar in the US IMO. I'm a tooter not a shooter, and I know plenty of folks that have collapsed veins from shooting tar...
I'm not telling you to not buy his dope. To each his own. The only thing I see about the whole situation is he is making a killing on the tar AND can't keep stock up? I'd look around a bit more. Or if you're by a city you can cop in maybe try your own hand. If anyone needs help to learn how to cop and where check out opiophile.org there is a lot of info there. I see a lot of pharms on here that are priced better. Also, once you start shooting dope pills are almost worthless unless you're using dillys, fent, or oxyM. Please keep your tolerance down as long as possible. If you ever get hurt and can't get proper relief well, you're gonna be hurting. I speak from experience....
Good luck guys!!
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Hi guys,
I've been watching SR for a while...and watching the H market. The one thing I noticed is he is KILLING you on tar. I spend time on both coasts, when I'm on the east coast I get good powder for 150/bundle, and when I'm in SF tar goes for 40/g. that price is pretty standard all over the west coast. Sometimes it gets to 80/g, but not much higher. Thats in Denver, which has the best tar in the US IMO. I'm a tooter not a shooter, and I know plenty of folks that have collapsed veins from shooting tar...
I'm not telling you to not buy his dope. To each his own. The only thing I see about the whole situation is he is making a killing on the tar AND can't keep stock up? I'd look around a bit more. Or if you're by a city you can cop in maybe try your own hand. If anyone needs help to learn how to cop and where check out opiophile.org there is a lot of info there. I see a lot of pharms on here that are priced better. Also, once you start shooting dope pills are almost worthless unless you're using dillys, fent, or oxyM. Please keep your tolerance down as long as possible. If you ever get hurt and can't get proper relief well, you're gonna be hurting. I speak from experience....
Good luck guys!!
Granted, he is killing us on prices -- and shit I never received.. along with other people.
OT- envious is back...bring all your money to him. End transmission.
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Okay, I had a message from him about 8 hours ago saying he'd pay me back fully and give me extra compensation for my deal gone sour. I read his profile and he wasn't happy about what was being said here. I agreed I was pretty upset, I have said this to him personally and on the forums. I sent him pm's afterward stating I want to just clear his name HERE, get things to be made right and go from there. After a few days of not answering me on SR, he finally did and I apologized for being a bitch.
Now let's see if I get my cash back. He said he'd pay me in BTC (I am all for that) or I could wait. Personally, I am not going to wait anymore for it. This payback is supposed to be today or tomorrow.
I will let you all know about this when it happens.....
I think someone stated it well that us opiophiles need to stick together in this particular forum and keep every one informed of the bad, the good and the ridiculously ugly.
More from me later.
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My purchase from him also never came in. I've pmed him but he hasn't returned my messages yet hopefully he can refund me in bitcoins. I really wanted the tar, but I'm pretty much sick of waiting for it to come in.
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I got communication but to show for what I spent. He said that he's been dealing with his knee and therefore not being able to do anything correctly.
I just wanted to inform everyone. I still haven't gotten my refund :(
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I'm so confused with this thread. :-\
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I'm so confused with this thread. :-\
sounds like more H asshattery :(
sigh
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I was exchanging my Moneypak for kezenaren's btc, which he claimed would take no more than 20 minutes. It has been 4 hours so far and the money has been taken from the Moneypak, but he is not responding to my messages and I haven't received any bitcoins.
Maybe I'm just being impatient, but he should at least let me know what's going on.
Hopefully he comes through, but he has me a bit worried.
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I don't want to talk shit about keasy because he seems like a pretty straight up guy, but there's a few things about the way he operates that completely sketch me out.
For one thing, he's asking for loans for heroin. Now, this isn't a knock on him, but as a general rule of thumb, you NEVER front your money for heroin. Never, never, never. In real life, fronting money for dope is as good as burning your cash.
I'm not saying he won't come through (because his reputation is literally on the line), but it just seems like a bad idea to front somebody you don't even know cash for dope over the internet.
Then of course, there's the issue of overpricing, but he said he'll rectify that when he brings back the dope.
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I was exchanging my Moneypak for kezenaren's btc, which he claimed would take no more than 20 minutes. It has been 4 hours so far and the money has been taken from the Moneypak, but he is not responding to my messages and I haven't received any bitcoins.
Maybe I'm just being impatient, but he should at least let me know what's going on.
Hopefully he comes through, but he has me a bit worried.
The onlyt problem I can explain why the money wasn't instant is he took your BTC and bought them from an exchange is just going thru the bitcoin system through transfers which can that many hours depend on the route he is using to gfet them on SR, pretty sure he didn't have them in his SR account to just transfer or else he stole them, either way it 24 hours to get in your account and then call foul play and leave him some bad feedback and a huge complaint on his forum thread, I'm very seriously thinking of and Keasy back to the Be Wary of Stickie list at the top of the rumor mill.
nomad bloodbath
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This is not how you conduct business:
http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/7197
http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/7196
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This is not how you conduct business:
http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/7197
http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/7196
thank you for saying something nomad.
I was wondering when someone was going to call him on that.
I dont like being a whistle blower lol
and why does he call it a "free" donation?
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I have been a Keasy supporter because he's always done what he said he would with me but must say that his recent postings are bizarre.
Also - note that the loans have been running longer than I would expect them to with no apparent results.
Keasy - care to comment here?
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someone loaned kezenaren $1600? ;D
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I don't see this ending well.
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someone loaned kezenaren $1600? ;D
Wow, somebody's got some serious cash to spare. I know keasy has good feedback and he's probably a cool and honest guy, but don't people realize that heroin does things to people? Even the most honest person in the world isn't above temptation.
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I wish I would have seen all this before giving him my $200 money pak. I asked him multiple times if this was something he could exchanged right away, he said hour tops. It's been six hours now, and the money is gone... no BTC. Just like the other guy. He of course stopped responding to messages after he took the money.
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Please no one order anything else from this vendor!!!
:D
nomad bloodbath
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Please no one order anything else from this vendor!!!
:D
nomad bloodbath
For real! Thanx nomad. I can't believe the price this guy wanted for tar. Wasn't it like $300 a gram or something ridiculous like that? He also said it was hard. In my experience, good tar is never hard, its soft like tar. When it gets cut with sugars it gets hard. And I've never seen it for more than $80 a gram in Denver. Also, that shit is everywhere and plentiful. If he was serious about being a vender he should have no problem hooking up.
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someone loaned kezenaren $1600? ;D
Wow, somebody's got some serious cash to spare. I know keasy has good feedback and he's probably a cool and honest guy, but don't people realize that heroin does things to people? Even the most honest person in the world isn't above temptation.
+1
that's some bullshit. that person should be beaten with a sack of 1,600 one dollar bills.
some real stupid fucks out there.
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Just sent Kezenaren another message. Almost 24 hrs since he took my money, and I still have no BTC. I wonder if confearacy got his BTC yet?
Would like to know if anyone hears from him.
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I also just bought out the rest of his .01"My BTC Your Moneypak" listings one by one. I'll be curious to see if he lists more without responding to me.
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Okay, I guess I have officially been scammed by Kezenaren.
He canceled all the orders I made on the Moneypak for BTC, including the real one. He then relisted it at 212 BTC.
http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/6455
He did not respond to my message. What is it going to take for this guy to be banned?
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Here is a link to a separate post i made documenting the event:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=2304.0
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I think maybe Keasy's coke habit got the best of him. He seems to have decided that ripping people off was easier than consistently delivering very high-priced product. It's a shame that he's thrown away his hard-earned reputation.
Note to myself - sellers asking for loans...
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Hey everyone...have you noticed that this guys thread is a sticky at the top of this forum?
That always mean do not order anything from this vendor.
The cocaine list thread is a sticky because everyone needs a top notch guide on cocaine dealers on SR.
So, DO NOT ORDER FROM THIS VENDOR, I call a boycott on his products, he's all talk and apparently all fake feedback.
;)
nomad bloodbath
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So, DO NOT ORDER FROM THIS VENDOR, I call a boycott on his products, he's all talk and apparently all fake feedback.
It's important that not all Keasy's feedback is fake. Mine was real. I believe rx4200's was real. This highlights that a seller can cultivate a few real customers, get good feedback from them, and leverage that into a scam (whether that was their original intention or not). With Keasy there were enough other warning signs that collectively we should have been more wary (birthday, car wreck, needing funding at the prices he sold for, random listings). But for me he came through multiple times and he benefited from my positive ratings and postings as a result.
He probably should have stayed sticky in spite of a number of deliveries.
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So, DO NOT ORDER FROM THIS VENDOR, I call a boycott on his products, he's all talk and apparently all fake feedback.
It's important that not all Keasy's feedback is fake.
(birthday, car wreck, needing funding at the prices he sold for, random listings).
But for me he came through multiple times and he benefited from my positive ratings and postings as a result.
He probably should have stayed sticky in spite of a number of deliveries.
+1, but what's done is done. I would never order from him or any H dealer on Silk Road ATM.
more flakes than a snowstorm up in here.
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Keasy put out an update on his profile page, then listed more product, then it was removed. Everything looks bad for this dude.... ???
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I hate to say I told you so. No, wait... No I don't. :P I called this from the first time I saw one of his listings. All the signs were there folks. Sorry that people got hustled and ripped off by this guy. I think what really upsets me is that he was scamming all along and still tried to keep it going by shipping a few select orders to get positive feedback and advocates in the forums.
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he is now listing all this new hash. wonder if thats what he bought with my money.
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Like i've said before I wouldn't hire "Keasy" to dig a hole in the ground for me...I have a zero faith in him and he does not fit the professional vendor that SR should aspire to be.
:D
nomad bloodbath
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so I opened up another account to contact Kezenaren with. He ended up admitting he scammed me and makes fun of me for it. He also states that no one knows about the forums, and that he is going to still scam every one.
Kezen:
im enjoying seeing all the rage.. actually makes me kinda laugh more then anything.
half the people on silkroad dont even know about the forums! so for every pissed of retard like you theres always 3 more nice people ready to buy product :)
thanks for your purchase! hope to see future inquiries !!
lolpeace
It's been almost 48 hrs and I have yet to receive a response from SR. What will it actually take to get this guy banned?
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so I opened up another account to contact Kezenaren with. He ended up admitting he scammed me and makes fun of me for it. He also states that no one knows about the forums, and that he is going to still scam every one.
Kezen:
im enjoying seeing all the rage.. actually makes me kinda laugh more then anything.
half the people on silkroad dont even know about the forums! so for every pissed of retard like you theres always 3 more nice people ready to buy product :)
thanks for your purchase! hope to see future inquiries !!
lolpeace
where's "Problem Solver" when we need him?
I would beat Keasy within an inch of his death and then take a piss on his bleeding wounds.
"half the people don't know about the forums"
So that gives him the right to be a dishonest prick?
Junkie bitches like that make me sick.
The ban hammer will come soon for this waste of skin.
B
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Ok on this.
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wow, to see this unravel is weird. I am a newb to SR and when I joined I intially saw Kez's listing for tar...i thought i would give it a shot, waited a while...then saw the "trusted loan blah blah bs"....so what is really going on? i also saw that he is offering season tickets and fake identities with credit limits up to $50,000......this is insane my friends.....there has to be some kind of security against this kind of stuff....but I guess anonymity can be a blessing and a curse....
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Keasy is on his way out the door.
I'd love to see a month long boycott on new vendor accounts to clean house.
:D
nomad bloodbath
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I don't get it...he has access to fake identities that can obtain up to $50,000. Consider that it's probably just as great of an offense (if not greater) to market these identities as it is to actually use them. So, my question is, if he can get these identities, how about instead of selling them, he just takes out a loan himself using one of them and uses that to buy heroin instead of asking strangers to front him?
I personally have no beef with him. As a matter of fact, I think we need all the heroin vendors we can get. On the other hand, I don't like what I've read from this thread and I hate when people try to brutally rape you on prices, just because they can. I'm sorry, but the prices he had posted were probably at least double what he pays.
I agree with nomad; they need to shut down new vendors just temporarily to stop all these fake vendors coming in. Just yesterday I tried to order from a new vendor and they promptly cancelled, no pm nothing. Why put the ad up in you're planning on cancelling? We need standards, our vendors all need to be like tetravort, envious, etc.
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glad to hear!
I wanted to apologize to the members that were having problems earlier when I posted a positive post about him. I did so at his request, and didn't really investigate what was being said. Doing so caused confusion on this guy, and for that I am sorry.
If this is what it took to get this guy out the door sooner than later, I am happy to pay it. :)
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If you really want revenge badly enough, you could compromise his anonymity but leaving an anonymous tip for a drug force saying you know where they can bust a silk road heroin dealer...and say to trace his moneypak, he obviously had the cash sent to his bank account.
It's his own fucking fault if he gets busted, Silk Road buyer's guide clearly states not to accept any kind of payment other than BTC.
Say you were just trying to buy bitcoin, and never did any drugs. They might track you too but if you don't have anything illegal, well, accessing the site itself isn't illegal lol.
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Kezenaren aka Keasy review as promised.
Scam? Very likely.
Unrealiable? Very.
Dateline long due, most likely scam.
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just want him out of here.
i don't give tips to drug forces, anonymous or otherwise.
Kezenaren aka Keasy review as promised.
Scam? Very likely.
Unrealiable? Very.
Dateline long due, most likely scam.
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Good call, better not to jeopardize this wonderful service just to take out one douche :D
I guess I was just thinking out loud, I hate scammers.
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Damn...I hate to see all this, especially because I've place two orders with the guy and both went through really smoothly. Perhaps because I told him I'd say good things on the forums. Anyways, it looks as though he has obviously done a 180 recently. I assume he's probably gotten in to his product, either H or coke. And anyone who has ever bought opioids knows you never let your money walk. Who the hell is buying these 'trusted H loans?' Anyways, I googled his handle a while back, kezenaren, and got some info on him, and being the friendly Silk Roader that I am, informed him about it so he could remove that info. But, I've still got a picture of him(confirmed by him), as well as a potential name and facebook account, city, age, etc...and if I got it, LE could most likely find him as well...especially if he pisses off the wrong person.
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Damn...I hate to see all this, especially because I've place two orders with the guy and both went through really smoothly. Perhaps because I told him I'd say good things on the forums. Anyways, it looks as though he has obviously done a 180 recently. I assume he's probably gotten in to his product, either H or coke. And anyone who has ever bought opioids knows you never let your money walk. Who the hell is buying these 'trusted H loans?' Anyways, I googled his handle a while back, kezenaren, and got some info on him, and being the friendly Silk Roader that I am, informed him about it so he could remove that info. But, I've still got a picture of him(confirmed by him), as well as a potential name and facebook account, city, age, etc...and if I got it, LE could most likely find him as well...especially if he pisses off the wrong person.
LOOL...please PM me his facebook account.
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Keasy's observation that maybe only 25% of SR visitors use the forums is useful.
Maybe SR should tell first time buyers, when they click "add to cart" that they should visit the Rumor Mill (maybe rename the section to Vendor Discussion or Seller Discussion) to verify others' experiences with the seller PRIOR to placing the order.
Its an admission that the rating system has shortcomings but, yes, the ratings systems has shortcomings.
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LOOL...please PM me his facebook account.
Lollll. pwning, tonight at 11
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ugghhh.. woke up hoping to see him deleted... still here :(
i would also like to see the Facebook.
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wtf dont give out the dudes personal info. i dont care if hes a scammer, next thing you know sellers will start posting buyers info if package didnt get delivered or something. should not be encouraged to share that info no matter what. giving out personal info of a silk roader under ANY circumstance should be very frowned upon. scammers suck but lets not start this BS.
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NO ONE IS TO GIVE OUT ANYONE'S PERSONAL INFORMATION.....end of story.
But first of all if you are a vendor you should not have any personal information available on you.
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nomad bloodbath
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Finally heard from SR admin. All they said is that they have "been in touch with him", and that they removed the MoneyPak to BTC listing. Nothing mentioned about banning him.
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I pm'ed Kenazeren just to see what he would say regarding his 40% "TRUSTED" H loan.....
here it is....I just could not help but laugh...:
re: 40% loan!!!
glad you asked sir, 40% return rate would be a 2 week minimum 3 week maximum.
you will get your input money within 2 weeks, and the last week you would be gaining all profit... or i can send tar to you as profit, whichever way you so choose.
if u were wanting h from the loan, then i will be able to ship it in 2 weeks.
shipped birthday present style, which is the best method ive created so far.
if you have any questions feel free to ask.
your btc will be back in your pocket september 7th or sooner!
look forward to your future business
-peace
I mean is this guy serious? He must have thousands of BTC's he's ripped off of people...
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another day and he is still here??? WTF??
i had a script running that was pounding his inbox, in hopes it would slow him down from scamming other people. I stopped it when it was said he was getting banned.
Guess I should start it back up again.
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HOORAY! All of his listings have been taken down.
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Nah, I would never give out anyone's personal information. Even scammers, if only for the sole reason that it would potentially link LE or unwanted eyes to Silk Road. However, when ordering from someone who has been kind of sketchy, it doesn't hurt to have a little leverage if necessary... I really would like to share the picture of him that was on his steam account. He looks like a young, wanna be a thug, and he's got stacks of cash lying on his chest and such(probably from Silk Road trusted H loans ;)).
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so I opened up another account to contact Kezenaren with. He ended up admitting he scammed me and makes fun of me for it. He also states that no one knows about the forums, and that he is going to still scam every one.
Kezen:
im enjoying seeing all the rage.. actually makes me kinda laugh more then anything.
half the people on silkroad dont even know about the forums! so for every pissed of retard like you theres always 3 more nice people ready to buy product :)
thanks for your purchase! hope to see future inquiries !!
lolpeace
It's been almost 48 hrs and I have yet to receive a response from SR. What will it actually take to get this guy banned?
What will it take to get this guy banned?
What a great question.
Look around you, not just at just this tiny spot of relative freedom SR provides but all around you.
At all of the scammers from the guys people vote for to the bankers who get together and and devalue your currency, the farmers and corporations who "need" your subsidies and tariffs to "compete" in the global market, the guy hiding from the social workers when they come to check up on his children instead of hanging on the couch like he usually does.
The guy who instructs the morons you voted for to instruct their advisors (the guy who just instructed them BTW) to classify and prohibit certain substances, like the ones we came here to buy.
Look at all of the scammers and all of the laws that were supposed to stop them. The laws that pushed old fashioned suspicion and horse sense out the larger portion of society.
The very lack of horse sense that has people looking at an ordering page after having just past a link to a forum dedicated to the site they have already worked so hard to access.
They went to the trouble of getting TOR, getting BTC, learning PGP (mostly) and then move right passed a link, forums, that when shopping anywhere else like Amazon, Ebay or just about ANY online seller would have translated into "people's reviews-----some real, some faked, some ignorant but on average the best indicator of what to expect.
Why would we ever come to trust snakeoil salesman? Because they couldn't get away with that.....it's illegal. LOL!
And then we bring that same mentality in here after making such an effort with every intention of breaking the law......well, just the one's e don't agree with.
Scammers of all stripes will lose their will and find something that pays better when people get back their natural sense of buyer beware. When they see "forums" and automatically think "I'd better check this out first."
Unfortunately, in a land where withdrawal is prevalent risk taking is too. I wonder if we are all playing with our own hard earned money, if the loss is as painful as losing a weeks hard work?
A junkie buying with stolen money has little to lose.
But the fact remains, society has been conditioned to believe "someone else" is watching out for them. Even in here they want "someone else" to be in charge. They want a cop. They want SR to be a cop.
Hey SR......do you want to be a cop? Or does getting burned teach people that no one but themselves can ever think for them? Only they can be responsible for their actions, be they malicious or just gullible?
And when SR just continues to allow the freedom he allowed in the first place, talk of witch hunts and violating the only code we have in common here, anonymity, begin.
You have to ALLOW yourself to be scammed. It's the only form of theft that you willingly participate in.
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shut the fuck up! >:(
You are way off base! There is a more important code above anonymity, and that's honest dealing. Seller's agree to abide by a set of guidelines. If that's violated, everything goes out the window. I'm not looking for a cop, I'm enforcing a community standard. Everyone needed to know this guy is scum. If this community can't self regulate, it will never succeed. At the end of the day this site is run by someone, therefore they are the only ones that can do anything about it.
Now go back to figuring out which dimension your shape-shifting, reptilian overlords come from.
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I spoke to SR when he sent me a pm in reply to mine about Kenzenaren. He wanted me to lead him to this thread, because he said he hadn't seen it. He especially wanted to see the post where Kensey made fun of Boba Fett after scamming him. I had described that situation to SR but I hadn't given him a link. He sure sounded like he was going to do something serious about it. That's about all I can say. :)
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oh yeah, something has been done... his listings have been down for over a day now. :)
I spoke to SR when he sent me a pm in reply to mine about Kenzenaren. He wanted me to lead him to this thread, because he said he hadn't seen it. He especially wanted to see the post where Kensey made fun of Boba Fett after scamming him. I had described that situation to SR but I hadn't given him a link. He sure sounded like he was going to do something serious about it. That's about all I can say. :)
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shut the fuck up! >:(
Wow! It went from wanting an authority figure straight to squelching free speech. It usually takes a few decades to advance that far.
Seriously dude, I'm glad his stuff is down. I wish you could get compensation, I wish everyone who's ever been stolen from could get comensation.
I wonder who he will pop up as next? And how many will get scammed then?
Shutting down any given scammer one by one doesn't help with self regulation, communication does, if you can say anything without being told to shut the fuck up that is.
It's people's own fault for not doing their homework. If there's a forum, look at it.
I got burned by BarrySneaky. It was my first time. I didn't blame anyone but myself. I know damn well the world is full of crooks and there I am sending off BTC to someone I don't know, had learned nothing about and didn't bother to come here and read the thread that said he was scamming. I sure did when he stopped returning PMs though.
Then I read all the threads I could to learn as much as possible about this place and what escrow does for you and how it is foolish to not use it.
I got burned by Illy too but escrow saved my BTC that time.
I was pissed to see BarrySneaky still there and faking his own feedback with his .01BTC trick only to read what BS it was in the forums. He said some stuff to me that in hindsight was mocking too. He said "you will probably have a hard time finding it" in reference to his "expert packaging" and when I made a wallet to wallet transfer to him he PMed "I don't see it yet, you may want to check the address and make sure you didn't just make some schmuck's lucky day" only to follow up a minute later with "OK, I see it now".
I asked if SR (or any other vendor) could put up a feedback for sale site right next to it. Seemed like that could pay for a vendors account with enough scammers around and enough people needing to be thought that feedback can be faked and there ARE forums to discuss reputations.
I saw people being able to see the truth more clearly was much more of a benefit to them than him just disappearing. There are probably unforeseen consequences in that idea that could lead to good people being smeared.....I don't know.
All I do know is humanity is much worse off since government agencies brainwashed most of us into thinking someone else has our backs, when no one does.
And know matter how much I disagree with someone or how angry he makes me I can never justify saying "Shut the fuck up" unless his next words will cause me or my property to be damaged or stolen.
I agree that seller responsibilities to perform as advertised (or make compensations when unable to do so) is very important. Buyers have an equally important responsibility to hold up their end. Its simple contract law. And SR, as the owner of this marketplace can refuse service to anyone he pleases.
We rely on as much anonymity as is possible here. It seems to me that if making real IDs public got started here that would be far more threatening to his livelihood that say, someone selling ammo.
I'd bet that person would be banned faster than any scammer.
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I'm glad you guys have this forum... Believe it or not I was considering getting a friend to order some of his hash... Until I saw this.
I'm sorry but a seller asking for H loans?
What kind of junky fuck does that?
Unbelievable
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Hey Boba Fett,
I'm totally on your side wanting to kill Kenzenaren and if I knew where he was I'd even be willing to drive you there, but I do think the "shut the fuck up" was really out of line for what bp posted. I didn't read it as anything approaching a direct attack at you or even about what you had done. It was simply a variation on one of the "political statements" that float around SR forums from time to time.
I could tell by the way he wrote it that he was including himself in the idiot group that had done this from time to time. His basic open-ended question was "since we're all a group of reasonably intelligent individuals, why do we sometimes act like a bunch of dumb fucks when drugs are involved?" and that is a pretty good question. One that, unfortunately, only gets answered in retrospect when it really needs to be looked at *before* a purchase is made.
A brief apology is in order. :P I've done it on this forum when I got too emotional about a topic. ::) plus it's just plain good for the soul. :)
p.s. I'm sticking my nose in with an opinion because SR asked me to be a mod but didn't tell me for which forum so I'm just getting a little practice in. :) hehe...
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The one thing that is very difficult to do is read between the lines. I honestly dont think that any disrespect was intended for you..At least I didn't think so.. Just like Joe blow, I too, have taken posts out of context. The last thing that we need is to be uncivil..
I feel for anyone that has been ripped off. Keezy will get his.. If not here, it will catch up to him.
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I suggest the admin remove all his false feed backs on his profile page, no point in banning, anyone can create another account though.
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I suggest the admin remove all his false feed backs on his profile page, no point in banning, anyone can create another account though.
+1
and all the other H vendors out there...not mentioning names but there's rampant fake feedback.
This shit needs to stop. And "Keasy" you've got it coming. You'll have a hell of a lot more to worry about than your knee.
Fuck your loans, fuck your hash. And fuck you for making fun of buyers, ripping them off, and then thinking it wont show up here. What goes around comes around.
L75
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I suggest the admin remove all his false feed backs on his profile page, no point in banning, anyone can create another account though.
I think leave it intact instead, so that everyone can see how he gave himself fake feedback. Also, have one last feedback exposing his scam.
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I suggest the admin remove all his false feed backs on his profile page, no point in banning, anyone can create another account though.
I think leave it intact instead, so that everyone can see how he gave himself fake feedback. Also, have one last feedback exposing his scam.
+1 you'd be exposing a hell of a lot more than just Koozey. All of these scammers, trying with dual seller accounts and/or buyer accounts.
The olfactory sense of the Silk Road community is that of a fuckin' bloodhound. I smell SHITE.
L75
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Look guys on Tor there's just no way to get around the scammers with fake feedback you just have to go with your gut on these guy. Be Intelligent and make your on choices.
It comes with the territory. Be a conscious customer.
:D
nomad bloodbath
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Look guys on Tor there's just no way to get around the scammers with fake feedback you just have to go with your gut on these guy. Be Intelligent and make your on choices.
It comes with the territory. Be a conscious customer.
:D
nomad bloodbath
It is not wise to depend on profile feedbacks, but is better to judge by detailed reviews in forums.
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Look guys on Tor there's just no way to get around the scammers with fake feedback you just have to go with your gut on these guy. Be Intelligent and make your on choices.
It comes with the territory. Be a conscious customer.
:D
nomad bloodbath
It is not wise to depend on profile feedbacks, but is better to judge by detailed reviews in forums.
+1 or better yet, both
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okay, im sorry if I took it out of context.
I know what I did was risky, and felt like this guy was talking down to me.
I know my money is gone, I don't ever expect to see it again.... I just wanted him to be banned so it wouldn't happen to anyone else. It appears he has been banned from selling because all of his listings continue to remain down, even though he still continues to log in daily.
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Kezenaren is DEAD!
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nomad bloodbath
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Kezenaren is DEAD!
:D
nomad bloodbath
+1
Excellent. Another day another cunt.
Keep weeding em out
L75
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okay, im sorry if I took it out of context.
I know what I did was risky, and felt like this guy was talking down to me.
I know my money is gone, I don't ever expect to see it again.... I just wanted him to be banned so it wouldn't happen to anyone else. It appears he has been banned from selling because all of his listings continue to remain down, even though he still continues to log in daily.
My fault for using this thread as a way to point out some of what has destroyed natural caution and suspicion in our culture when you were still hopping mad over it, especially with him deliberately mocking you to someone else.
I had gotten over my mistakes and learned a lot from them but I should have given more care to how you were feeling at the time. I'm sorry I didn't.
But I can't help it, it's too damn important.
Drugs and especially withdrawal are a special situation and can bring normally wary people to take risks they wouldn't if the were not under it's grip.
But I still stand behind my beliefs as to why we have by and large had our natural defense system against con-men numbed in our culture.
We shouldn't have to be hiding in here or out dealing with sketchy people FTF to get something that harms no one but ourselves. We should be able to run down to the corner market and pick it up and if we get bad shit, overpricing or rude service we should have a long list of other stores to take our business to while the bad ones go out of business.
But we can't. We can't because of instead of just letting people do as they will (as long as they harm no one or their property) we have small groups making decisions for the masses because someone thought it would be best to protect us from ourselves.
How many thousands of pages of legislation with huge unintended consequences were the result of someone being hurt in some way like losing a child or being ripped off and they then devote their lives to "making sure this never happens to anyone again" when what they are really doing is seeking a closure they may never find?
We have a our own particular subculture in here and the freedom allowed by SR on this site is special.
While it is always satisfying to any individual who has just been taken to have a great force like God or government (or the owner of the marketplace) beat down and ban the scammer on the spot that does nothing to bring back the natural human defense system of "buyer beware" into our culture. Instead it actually promotes the weakness.
What is better in the long run.......a few people being scammed in a free society and learning from it and passing that knowledge to others to the point it begins to reweave our natural suspicion into our subculture (and hopefully someday all cultures)-----or forming power centers (or making constant use of an existing one) to remove the scammer in revenge and depriving the rest of the group of the lesson?
One way leads to a free people who don't have to ask permission or hide to put things in their body.....the other leads to rule over many many by a few who have so confused the many that they actually believe they are both free and secure so long as too much reality doesn't find them.
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okay, im sorry if I took it out of context.
I know what I did was risky, and felt like this guy was talking down to me.
I know my money is gone, I don't ever expect to see it again.... I just wanted him to be banned so it wouldn't happen to anyone else. It appears he has been banned from selling because all of his listings continue to remain down, even though he still continues to log in daily.
My fault for using this thread as a way to point out some of what has destroyed natural caution and suspicion in our culture when you were still hopping mad over it, especially with him deliberately mocking you to someone else.
I had gotten over my mistakes and learned a lot from them but I should have given more care to how you were feeling at the time. I'm sorry I didn't.
But I can't help it, it's too damn important.
Drugs and especially withdrawal are a special situation and can bring normally wary people to take risks they wouldn't if the were not under it's grip.
But I still stand behind my beliefs as to why we have by and large had our natural defense system against con-men numbed in our culture.
We shouldn't have to be hiding in here or out dealing with sketchy people FTF to get something that harms no one but ourselves. We should be able to run down to the corner market and pick it up and if we get bad shit, overpricing or rude service we should have a long list of other stores to take our business to while the bad ones go out of business.
But we can't. We can't because of instead of just letting people do as they will (as long as they harm no one or their property) we have small groups making decisions for the masses because someone thought it would be best to protect us from ourselves.
How many thousands of pages of legislation with huge unintended consequences were the result of someone being hurt in some way like losing a child or being ripped off and they then devote their lives to "making sure this never happens to anyone again" when what they are really doing is seeking a closure they may never find?
We have a our own particular subculture in here and the freedom allowed by SR on this site is special.
While it is always satisfying to any individual who has just been taken to have a great force like God or government (or the owner of the marketplace) beat down and ban the scammer on the spot that does nothing to bring back the natural human defense system of "buyer beware" into our culture. Instead it actually promotes the weakness.
What is better in the long run.......a few people being scammed in a free society and learning from it and passing that knowledge to others to the point it begins to reweave our natural suspicion into our subculture (and hopefully someday all cultures)-----or forming power centers (or making constant use of an existing one) to remove the scammer in revenge and depriving the rest of the group of the lesson?
One way leads to a free people who don't have to ask permission or hide to put things in their body.....the other leads to rule over many many by a few who have so confused the many that they actually believe they are both free and secure so long as too much reality doesn't find them.
...look man. i feel you, but you need to smoke a bowl.
lol
L75
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okay, im sorry if I took it out of context.
I know what I did was risky, and felt like this guy was talking down to me.
I know my money is gone, I don't ever expect to see it again.... I just wanted him to be banned so it wouldn't happen to anyone else. It appears he has been banned from selling because all of his listings continue to remain down, even though he still continues to log in daily.
My fault for using this thread as a way to point out some of what has destroyed natural caution and suspicion in our culture when you were still hopping mad over it, especially with him deliberately mocking you to someone else.
I had gotten over my mistakes and learned a lot from them but I should have given more care to how you were feeling at the time. I'm sorry I didn't.
But I can't help it, it's too damn important.
Drugs and especially withdrawal are a special situation and can bring normally wary people to take risks they wouldn't if the were not under it's grip.
But I still stand behind my beliefs as to why we have by and large had our natural defense system against con-men numbed in our culture.
We shouldn't have to be hiding in here or out dealing with sketchy people FTF to get something that harms no one but ourselves. We should be able to run down to the corner market and pick it up and if we get bad shit, overpricing or rude service we should have a long list of other stores to take our business to while the bad ones go out of business.
But we can't. We can't because of instead of just letting people do as they will (as long as they harm no one or their property) we have small groups making decisions for the masses because someone thought it would be best to protect us from ourselves.
How many thousands of pages of legislation with huge unintended consequences were the result of someone being hurt in some way like losing a child or being ripped off and they then devote their lives to "making sure this never happens to anyone again" when what they are really doing is seeking a closure they may never find?
We have a our own particular subculture in here and the freedom allowed by SR on this site is special.
While it is always satisfying to any individual who has just been taken to have a great force like God or government (or the owner of the marketplace) beat down and ban the scammer on the spot that does nothing to bring back the natural human defense system of "buyer beware" into our culture. Instead it actually promotes the weakness.
What is better in the long run.......a few people being scammed in a free society and learning from it and passing that knowledge to others to the point it begins to reweave our natural suspicion into our subculture (and hopefully someday all cultures)-----or forming power centers (or making constant use of an existing one) to remove the scammer in revenge and depriving the rest of the group of the lesson?
One way leads to a free people who don't have to ask permission or hide to put things in their body.....the other leads to rule over many many by a few who have so confused the many that they actually believe they are both free and secure so long as too much reality doesn't find them.
I agree the drug war is ridiculous, if you are unsafe with your drug use you should be locked up but for the majority of people that use their drugs responsibly and in there own home there should be an outlet for the intelligent drug users.
:D
nomad bloodbath
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Ding dong the witch is dead, the wicked ol' beast...
Anyhow, if you DO know how to use google.....you can find A LOT of info about this guy. STUPID!
Oh how I said I was dumb, I did it to try to see how things would go and now, I have been schooled.
I hate this shit, I want to sell to help people out and see a market for it and with all this shit going on, I don't even know if I will get my account!!! >:(
It must be Dilaudid o'clock for me because I am getting very edgy... maybe I just need a xanax... something.
I am feeling like I just got fellated by a shark and I already have the clap from a really cheap hooker off backpage...that's a bad feeling..
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It is a sad day my friends...
I dont know how or why or what the fuck but...
he is back from the dead.
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/13338
I wont lie, my jaw literally dropped and I facepalmed.
who was in charge of letting this jackass come back?